If you have an iOS device (which supports activation lock), then you are in luck as long you didn't forget to setup "Find My iPhone" correctly. Common sense is important too – if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 4. Another scam to be wary of. There are multiple ways of getting scammed with everything no matter what payment method you use, but you can only get scammed if you don't cover yourself. Paypal have nothing to do with it. If you send it as a friend, then no you are not covered as it's considered the same as a gift. Basically you need to prove online delivery for paypal protection on a collection item you dont get â¦ Anyone Here Used Hostmate for Web/Email Hosting? It's cash without having to carry cash and you get a receipt. How hard would it be for Apple to cancel some gift cards and reverse the electronic transactions putting the kibosh on these scams? Get the latest Over60 news, offers and articles. Archive View Return to standard view. Whirlpool Forums Addict reference: whrl.pl/ReKJzm. I messaged the guy he was keen to sell so he gave me his number. we did our research and found out other people had been done by the same trick. The OP got scammed in the dumbest of way because they were greedy and stupid. gromit on 22/07/2020 - 17:38. it is a problem, but incredibly rare compared to the much more common paypal scams. You can't just claim a stolen account either, you need to prove it and when it's digital it's actually very difficult. @Freezies: Has, as a victim of a PayPal scam I laugh at your suggestion that it's just like a credit card/bank account transfer. Sorry I thought guns were a thing in the US. Most of you may already know but there is a major scam the people are doing after seeing an item on gumtree that you are selling. They got scammed and almost always via known and obvious methods too. You mean, it was not sent to your parents account. Did it affect your credit ratings ? straight away and told them about the incident and what we wanted to happen, they then told us that they were going to let it reach Chicago and then turn it around then, from one thing after the other it got closer to it destination and then it said it was delivered. Things like this happened long before ebay and Paypal came about. Either cash or a bank cheque that we go to the bank together to deposit or alternatively you can transfer the money while we are at the branch together. Could he not have just done a PayPal invoice and opted in for buyer protection? This is a lesson for the boy - women are expensive. With the issue of my details, transferring the name of ownership and signing of all paperwork will be done by the freight agent so you don't have to worry about that. 1st Thiefâs details; MARTINA BECK Toongabbie, NSW M: Commonwealth Bank BSB: 062-293 ACC: ****4553 2nd Thiefâs details; ADAM ELIAS Toongabbie (claims to be in Victoria) M: If you are buying anything please check these details t Join our community of over 400,000-plus members today and get the latest Over60 news, offers and articles. Inspect the goods, then pay with straight transfers as a gift. The end.. @Freezies: There was a paypal/evmbay scam going around a while back was scammer buying something expensive on ebay with paylal, claiming it was faulty when they received it, then returning it. If you sell on eBay, you have to be prepared to potentially lose your item. They happen every day, everywhere with every possible payment method. It's 100% safe even for idiots as it is an instant transfer, but for the last time, there was never any paypal transaction involved. Banks, digital payments and credit card companies can't cover you if you stray outside of protection laws either and they can't protect you from your own mistakes. I wasn't born yesterday and I won't buy into your scam. please check this out because I almost lost £1000 camera and possibly money from my PayPal account. thought you can only block it in Australia? PayPal Friends & Family is direct debit with bank account only. The person "buying" the phone said they sent the money to the OPs paypal and showed a photoshopped image. They all are, but like all things, the only way this happens is when someone gets a hold of someone elses password, or pin or CC number etc. but we think she sold a phone like mine and was sending her customer my phone over in Texas, As soon as we sent my phone we found out the transaction was a fake and that we needed to get the phone back. Their term and condition would have covered them, they are doing goodwill to intercept the parcel but it may not always successful. Paypal isn't a credit card company and It's not a bank account. It's 2020. Even today, I always take a photo before and after opening any parcel. While most community members have a positive experience, on occasion bad seeds do target Gumtree users. And in my case when I did, the buyer claimed they were hacked and paypal put my account in negative as though it was my fault. Not 100% as they can say to the credit card provider it was fraudulent transaction (or use a stolen credit card). PayPal Friends and Family is easily reversed. @Freezies: If you think PayPal is 100% safe (or even 95% safe), you are waiting in the queue to be scammed. It doesn't cost $100 to send a phone from Melbourne with Australia Post. @HarrisonA: In my opinion I would just avoid selling anything interstate and keep it local. Police maybe?). Get all the latest Over60 news, offers and articles. Police in Belfast are warning locals about scammers targeting locals through Gumtree and PayPal. The listing itself was simple. The payment happened through PayPal but not within GumTree's website. @sajidmib: https://mashable.com/article/applecare-plus-theft-and-loss-c.... AppleCare+ with Theft and Loss will include up to two incidents of accidental damage, just like regular old AppleCare+. The ony way is if someone got their password and then associated email and password to verify it and this can only happen if someone is stupid enough to fall for phishing tactics. People need to take some precautions and responsibility for themselves too rather than relying on third party companies to step in and solve everything. The client sent an email advising that the caravan was available, and received this email response: Thanks for getting back, I'm fine with the price likewise the condition as described on the advert, exactly what am looking for, I work with Falcon Oil & Gas Ltd. Beetaloo Basin, Northern Territory, Australia and the reception is terrible. Legitimate buyers and â¦ It's not so simple to simple reverse a transaction and practically impossible when you haven't done something stupid or naive. âMyself and gumtree have forwarded your details onto the police, as Iv been advised this is a police matter. Sorry for your loss, nothing you can do now. For any Gumtree transaction, we encourage our community to follow our safety guidelines. Opinions/advice needed. This scam has been around for years and still people fall for it. It's easy to read all the stories of the people saying they got scammed but people don't tell their stories when things go fine, yet that is the overwhelming vast majority of all transactions. but what if the phone isn't in her possession anymore to give to me. Gumtree is face to face in the public place cash only, yes, but i think Charlotte actually lives in Australia somewhere and was selling my phone to her customer in Texas so that the address she gave me would have only lead to her customer. Australia Post won't do a thing. A Gumtree seller has warned people about the dangers of fake bank notes after he was scammed out of $700. No credit card transactions. Maybe I should start this business ð, yes, we warned the Usps about what was happening and it still went straight through there fingers. We are a community marketplace, so we always encourage members to buy and sell locally. Are they indirectly claiming seller did that? This is completely FALSE. No it's not. It's digital and even logging in from a different phone or PC sets off triggers. Loses $1,000 and we get a star wars reference and 18 upvotes. Almost half the people I've deal with on Gumtree and Facebook market use P2P paypal. posted â¦ I mulled over it, and re-read her email. I have never heard good news (after) from people I know who were similarly scammed. Worth $550 max as new. All trademarks are owned by their respective owners.OzBargain is an independent community website which has no association with nor endorsement by the respective trademark owners. You can't just hack or steal a paypal account. An officer from East Belfast says his colleague has been dealing with a â¦ More so since covid started. How much do you think manual intervention costs in a systematized delivery process like this? I believe it is fairly safe. I sure do! If it's as a sale transaction though, yes. The fact is, scams are everywhere and in every method from both the buyers and sellers sides. @SBOB: Third party doesn't cost 1k though, @Jackson: It can if you're 18 and bought a stupid car, Wow, so this kind if scam still works. Its an expensive mistake and lesson to learn but you'll never make it again. Not the cost of the postage. Not to worry, At least you can take a good life lesson to learn away from this. Most people don't get scammed and if someone has attempted to scam them, it is easily dismissed if you are aware of how things work. Gumtree warns users to look out for the following signs: Messages that ask you to log in or make a payment quickly before your ad is deleted or â¦ When my suspicions were aroused, thatâs what I did. Mobile car wash business for sale.# Due to scams and time wasters I do not respond on Gumtree mail Please pick up the phone and contact me if you are interested #The opportunities are endless and we build to your requirements. then you would think it's Australia Post's negligence, wouldn't you? Online trade and interactions are growing exponentially â as are reports and speculation about scams perpetrated on free platforms. But yes, there are ways to block the phones via software. got scammed a month's rent in advance from a Gumtree apartment rental listing for an address that wasn't actually an apartment building It happens to international students quite a lot. if it is true, then you have learned a basic lesson. We tried buying an iPhone from these 2 and they scammed us. it is a scammers haven, using paypal is basically Russian Roulette except 5 chambers are loaded instead of 1. PayPal chargebacks are rife and a seller's worst enemy. @funnysht: yes, very easy to dispute and win, cash only for gumtree. Hopefully you will be more suspicious of person-to-person online transactions in future. Then according to ABC News, one of three events will occur: 1. I've had people initiate chargebacks and also trying to scam me in other ways They can be very clever but when you stick to the methods and way of doing things, they can't succeed. If you are the seller, you are at the mercy of the buyer disputing the transaction (whether paid through bank or card). Someone can only gift the money back. This scam was a little complicated but by letting them pay via paypal you left yourself open to this simplest of scams. Different story, same trick in the end. Jeff Gordon. What was the phone/model? There are multiple points that you should see that there is an issue. People who get scammed like this will get scammed no matter what payment method they use. thanks for your help. Also, I didn't realise at the time, but when I re-read the original Text Message, the sender says "sue" (instead of a mobile phone number). Lisa Du is director of ReadyTechGo, a service that helps people gain the confidence and skills to embrace modern technology. You can report it to https://www.scamwatch.gov.au. Source: Getty/Supplied âGumtree specifically has a lot of these lurkers more so than other sites I use. Excited, I emailed firstname.lastname@example.org right away, to let her know that the phone was still available. I honestly think it's a fair candidate for legislation. He flies to the US and someone shoots him? email@example.com Email her directly Thx". You don't use the same paypal method in person as you would for an online transactions and you don't use the same method for personal and consumer transactions either. At least you have a good attitude about it. As far as I know, Australia Post never straight away send stuff overseas straight away (It would take a few days before products leave Australia for obvious bulk-posting reason). Yes in this instance it was a facepalm easy scam due to him not checking, but even if he had the money there are multiple ways he could have lost out. The man had sold a television before sharing a picture of â¦ i suppose its can be a lesson for all of us that scammers are willing to do anything to get your money. she said she had paid $1000 (with proof of a fake Pay-Pal notice, but the payment never came through and never will). We previously moved to restrict the sale of items that were in high demand such as hand sanitisers and PPE, and will move to do the same if required. And since there is no seller protection, the seller automatically loses the case. Actually no, I got paid with a stolen account once this way. But still, the scheme was actually pretty advanced and interesting in hindsight. A concert ticket scammer who netted about $10,000 selling counterfeit concert tickets on Facebook and Gumtree avoids jail after being sentenced to â¦ You're the one who sounds incredibly naive. So about 2 weeks ago I saw a used cpu on gumtree, fairly good price too. …or just checked the paypal account to see that no money had been transferred…, Yes but can't the buyer reverse a paypal transfer or dispute it. Sites like Gumtree advise using a linked Paypal account for this very reason as it DOES protect you, it just can't protect people from doing stupid shit or being reckless and careless or being naive about the common scam methods of today. I am already in talks with the courier that will handle the pick-up and delivery. Fewer than half (46%) of online marketplace users check to see whether an item â¦ Most of the methods are well known and constantly talked about. Don't feel bad, almost everyone on earth has been conned before. Sites like Gumtree are a great place to sell your items (my client successfully sold a Trailer and Tyres) but do keep in mind that there are many scams circulating! Itâs a good idea if youâre going to use Gumtree to first have a quick look through its articles on operating safely. Its a version of the paypal on collection one . Welcome to the Gumtree scam. Apple now will take into consideration theft or loss as part of the two incidents. First idea it was a con was them offering full price. last updated â posted 2016-Nov-10, 4:47 pm AEST posted 2016-Nov-10, 4:47 pm AEST User #99958 2243 posts. People seem to be completely unaware of the fact that in person to person Paypal transactions, most of the time you are doing a straight transfer without buyer/seller protection which is the same as using cash. This is just the beginning.â. Use your common sense. It sucks for all the people who get scammed, but that's just the thing. Zanco sent through an image of a Female US Passport, in which my client replied stating "perhaps an incorrect ID was attached?" Campaigners call for UK and EU bans on plastic 'sample' sachets. People need to educate themselves. WARNING: I was Scammed on Gumtree. These people are adept at preying on your vulnerabilities. how would you go about about it overseas? The USPS won't do a thing. Like every other place on earth that people buy or sell. Ask your parents if they have home contents insurance that covers lost mobiles? Most scammers would not want to deal with Counterfeit cash as that is something the police really will follow up. I was really, really close to being scammed yesterday on Gumtree, which makes me sound like a huge moron. I thought they only do repairs, that too for extra charge. You don't even need to worry about IMEI blocking as the thief will be carrying a brick once they attempt to re-setup the device. Guess this is how these scammers keep going there is always someone out there to con, Sorry Op i have a 17 year old, you didn't have a parent to give you advice before? @HarrisonA: Greed overcome you. Take it as a life lesson. For future ads just say no paypal and no posting. The one time I had a return, I filmed myself opening the package. Like all things, you have to stay within the protection guidelines and use your brains and judgement. The message from "Sue" read: "Hi my partner will like to know if your listed Phone on gumtree is still on for sale? You can't initiate chargebacks on gift transactions. There are scammers and pricks everywhere. Yeah, cash is king. I currently have my mountain bike on gumtree, this morning I got a txt from 07 (edited) asking me to email sharonshayluv âatâ (edited).com ( wouldnât let me post the email address properly) about my bike so I did. I decided to do a Google Search of "Gumtree scams" and found that many people had fallen victim to scams just like the message I received from Sue! Also do research - google is your friend. There are no reversals or chargebacks. @SnoozeAndLose: that was the thing, https://mobilemonster.com.au/sell-your-phone/samsung/galaxy-... i suppose this is another lesson that it never hurts to ask for help once in a while no matter how proud you are ð, "As soon as we sent my phone we found out the transaction was a fake and that we needed to get the phone back. And you didn't catch any STDs, which with 1'000 spend in other ways, could be quite easy. Indeed, as one of Australiaâs favourite places to sell and buy stuff, Gumtree is aware of these things. Re: Is this a Paypal Scam on Gumtree I HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO ME Great! The people behind this one are not your average cyber criminals. Hello straight away and told them about the incident and what we wanted to happen, they then told us that they were going to let it reach Chicago and then turn it around then, from one thing after the other it got closer to it destination and then it said it was delivered. And in a way I was a huge moron. Claire Cobbledick, GM of Gumtree South Africa says that while prevention is better than cure, victims who find themselves out of pocket due to an online scam should report the incident immediately. It's their entire business model, and they deal in all forms of transactions for individual consumers and large corporations. (Scammers use online websites to send anonymous text messages, or messages with fake names). Which apparently would of been much worse for a 17 year. Obviously wrong. 06/10/2020. It's a fact of life which is why buyers and sellers should always protect themselves just incase. It can appear quite legitimate! It's not difficult to outsmart the scammers especially when it comes to well known scams. Going to be a walk in the park for these guys. (that's when it got strange) we couldn't find any trace of the money, she then said that it was because we had to pay her back $1,000 for us to receive our payment of $1,000. So back to my point, why would someone from the US buy a phone from Australia? Return on investment can be â¦ she then told us to send the phone to Texas, so we did, quite confidently. You do however have the receivers address as that is where you posted it to. ive learnt a lot from everyone and would like to thank you all for helping me understand what needs to happen to prevent anything like this happening again. On Gumtree, this means being polite and observant when buying or selling. The scammer sends a message to the Seller, asking the seller to email them. The transaction occurs via email, where the scammer says they will pay via PayPal. yes i fully agree, now i can see the offer was a bit to good to be true so much so that its a little funny and humiliating, now i can see the offer was a bit to good to be true. © Copyright 2021 OverSixty.All Rights Reserved. How exactly is the OP going to go about blocking the IMEI in the US? At this least time it only cost your $1k, Not chicken feed, but could have been worse! it was a brand new Samsung s9 plus 256gb, but there other thing was she said she was paying for express on top of everything. I Got Scammed on Gumtree, and Was Wondering if There's a Solution? A courier comes and picks up the car and it is effectively stolen, 2. it is a problem, but incredibly rare compared to the much more common paypal scams. This is the high risk approach to purchases in person, you get all the negatives of paypal without any of the positives, why would any sane seller adopt an unnecessary risk for a transaction that can easily be done with cash without all the possible downsides of paypal. How is it seller's fault if buyer account was hacked. What Was The Longest Time You Took to Return Something Unopened or Near New to Bunnings. i saw everyone as a buyer/customer and i didn't take into account that it just could be a scammer. That Paypal is somehow the only one that could be hacked or stolen? Ruthless. Like sending money to family/friends. (probably not), Finally - walk into apple with your old devices receipt / IMEI / serial # etc and see if they can block it so no one can use it regardless of country When in fact the cars are often missing parts or in bad condition. It's like your head is frozen in time many years ago with very simple understanding of how it works. âMuch to learn you still have my old padawan. There always have been, there always will be. Once the account was reported as hacked by the actual owner the payment was promptly reversed by PayPal who immediately set debt collectors on me! @gromit: Nothing is ever 100% safe in that regard as you can get robbed carrying cash, bank transfers and credit card payments can all be disputed too. Please share this video or tell people about this scam. Having said that, I've had experience with Groupon where I told them specifically literally 1 hour after I clicked "Cancel", to disregard the "Cancel" request, they went ahead with it anyway and gave me (credit) refunds after 2-3 days. What if many people got scammed and asked for this? ", "We also encourage anyone who thinks they have come across anything suspicious or concerning to report it to us using the ‘report ad’ function or 24/7 live chat. I think the US has the cheapest iPhone selling price. but now this has happened if i ever sell on Gumtree again ill only do cash on pickup, and if its out of state ill make sure the cash has come through Pay-pal before i post anything. Who exactly have I scammed ?! Safest way before shipping anything is direct deposit. The way I see it if a buyers paypal account was "hacked", that is paypal's problem and lack of control, they absorb the cost of their refund scheme. No it isn't the same as just using cash at all. Working professional with 3 kids looking for long-term rental in Ellenbrook prefer 5x2 or large 4x2 with a theatre room,shutters, air-conditioning,pool an absolute plus. Theyâre thieves and they stole our money. Even cash can be counterfeit and the person turning can be fake. I think there has to be exception for this kind of situation. we told her that we had no money to give, but there was no answer to that question. I got done by this as well. That use to buy a first car at 17 years of age. The scammer sends a message to the Seller, asking the seller to email them. It is at least equal to bank transfers, credit cards and cash as it can do the same as all three yet is instant and has better scam protection. Show Printable Version; 29th April 2017, 05:31 PM #1. People seem to be completely unaware of the fact that in person to person Paypal transactions, most of the time you are doing a straight transfer without buyer/seller protection which is the same as using cash. At this least time it only cost your $1k, Not chicken feed, but could have been worse! I agree with your statement. 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